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Ben Youngs will bring down the curtain on his England career in Friday’s World Cup bronze final against Argentina at Stade de France usdt
The nation’s most-capped men’s player with 126 Test appearances makes his first start of the tournament but also his final Red Rose outing, having launched his international odyssey against Scotland 13 years ago usdt
Steve Borthwick has saluted a scrum-half master who has been first choice for most of his career until slipping down the pecking order at this World Cup due to the emergence of Alex Mitchell usdt
“Ben has been a tremendous player for English rugby for such a long time usdt
He’s a brilliant player and a fantastic team man,” Borthwick said usdt
“He’s our record cap holder, a player who has seen a lot in four World Cups and who has played an important role within this squad helping the team progress, particularly Alex Mitchell usdt
”Tom Curry locks horns with Argentina despite receiving usdt online abuse in response to the allegation that he was the victim of a racist slur against South Africa usdt
Curry claimed that hooker Bongi Mbonambi called him a “white c***” in Saturday’s 16-15 semi-final defeat at the Stade de France, prompting World Rugby to launch an investigation that is ongoing usdt
The Sale flanker continues in the back row despite being in the eye of the storm, however, and will win his 50th cap in a rematch of the pool victory over the Pumas usdt
Owen Farrell leads a team showing eight changes in personnel and two positional switches, one of them Curry’s move to blindside flanker to accommodate Sam Underhill’s first appearance of the World Cup in the number seven jersey usdt
Marcus Smith is restored at full-back after passing the HIA that forced him to sit out the South Africa showdown and the knock-on effect is that Freddie Steward moves to the right wing usdt
Henry Arundell returns for the first time since running in five tries against Chile in the third Pool D match, providing firepower on the left wing, while the centre partnership of Manu Tuilagi and Joe Marchant remains intact usdt
Head coach Borthwick fields an entirely new front row made up of Ellis Genge, Theo Dan and Will Stuart, with tighthead prop Dan Cole poised to make potentially his final England appearance off the bench usdt
Ollie Chessum returns in the second row, but there is no place in the 23 for George Martin, one of the heroes of the defeat by the Springboks usdt
“After the disappointment of last weekend’s game against South Africa, it is important that this Friday we once again play with the determination and dedication that so nearly earned the team the result we wanted,” Borthwick said usdt
“The bronze final gives us a great opportunity to finish the tournament on a positive note, continue to build for the future, and to give our supporters one last chance to get behind the squad out here in Paris usdt
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All of Pep Guardiola’s work ahead of the Manchester derby this weekend has naturally revolved around having a high percentage of possession, which is to be expected, but there is one surprising element to it usdt
He has been scrutinising what more pragmatic sides such as Brentford, Brighton and even Copenhagen did against United for instruction usdt
All of them went to Old Trafford looking to get on the ball and dominate – with mixed success – in a way that at one point would have been unimaginable usdt
It is really only Nottingham Forest who didn’t take that approach this season, preferring to let United have the ball usdt
In United’s nine Premier League games so far, they have had lower possession than their opponent in four of those usdt
In other words, they’ve been chasing the opposition in almost half of their games usdt
On the ballManchester United’s possession in the Premier League this season (per cent)51 - Wolves (h)44 usdt
3 - Tottenham Hotspur (a)66 usdt
3 - Nottingham Forest (h)45 usdt
2 - Arsenal (a)43 usdt
9 - Brighton (h)38 usdt
2 - Burnley (a)77 usdt
1 - Crystal Palace (h)63 usdt
9 - Brentford (h)62 usdt
5 - Sheffield United (a)This would be unusual for most big sides in this era but is particularly unusual for a manager in Erik ten Hag who is so consciously a disciple of the Ajax principles, and has now had well over a year in the job usdt
That’s a lot of time on the training ground usdt
Manchester City had even considered him a potential successor to Guardiola, given the tactical alignment usdt
So it’s fair to wonder why exactly United aren’t closer to any kind of ideal as Ten Hag would surely see it usdt
They currently don’t play anything like his Ajax side, let alone City or that possession-pressing model usdt
By the same point in Guardiola’s tenure, City were on a winning run that would bring a 100-point season usdt
United have instead gone backwards, which fits into a wider concern over how the side haven’t really had a convincing display since before the Carabao Cup final victory over Newcastle United usdt
Ten Hag’s recent reliance on Ole Gunnar Solskjaer stalwarts such as Harry Maguire and Scott McTominay would almost seem to sum this up usdt
United are even playing more like Solskjaer’s time, just making do in the moment in order to get through usdt
It's all so ad hoc usdt
Harry Maguire’s header earned United all three points against Copenhagen (EPA)The biggest question, out of many for the United manager, is whether this is a deeper concern usdt
Does it show he won’t implement his ideal; that a window of opportunity has been lost?As with pretty much everything at United right now, everyone puts it down to injuries usdt
That is the explanation for the unconvincing displays and the pragmatic approaches usdt
Ten Hag hasn’t had the players so has had to compromise usdt
But is that really sufficient? Would the idealist that Ten Hag supposedly represents not still seek to integrate the squad in an approach that will serve them much more in the longer term?You only have to look across the way, and the one season when Guardiola faced a broadly similar situation usdt
In 2016-17, when the City manager still lacked some of the player profiles he wanted – especially at full-back – he still insisted on the exact same approach usdt
John Stones was often the main focus of this usdt
Although the defender was still learning the game, meaning he was prone to mistakes as he endured so much external noise, Guardiola told him to just shut it all out usdt
He followed by telling Stones to keep playing the ball out usdt
Ignore the shouts to get rid usdt
Concentrate on commitment to the ideal usdt
It led to some humiliating moments, not least four-goal concessions against both Leicester City and Everton usdt
Guardiola himself was lampooned, particularly after some questions led to his own notorious pondering of “what is tackles?”A year later, the City manager was specifically citing that period – and that persistence – as absolutely crucial to the run that effectively made them champions by December 2017 usdt
That the win to clinch the title came away to Jose Mourinho’s counter-attacking Manchester United only emphasised the point usdt
An achievement like that 100-point season was a consequence of how the players’ deeper comprehension of the system amplified their performance usdt
Figures at Old Trafford would fairly argue that Ten Hag was initially going to do this, but the onslaught from those first defeats against Brighton and Brentford at the start of last season was just too much usdt
The second goal conceded at Brentford, trying to pass the ball out from the back, was just too calamitous usdt
United being United, it brought a level of ridicule and hysteria beyond anything City could face usdt
Ten Hag had to change something or it could have completely destroyed the squad’s confidence in themselves and him, before he ever got the chance to build belief in the system usdt
They would also point to how Guardiola benefitted from spending £200m on defenders in his second season, including two cornerstones of the era in Kyle Walker and Ederson usdt
By contrast, Ten Hag has attempted to fill tactical gaps in his side with relatively makeshift signings like Sofyan Amrabat and Christian Eriksen usdt
A serious club, some in the industry argue, doesn't take the team to the next stage with a 20-year-old (Rasmus Hojlund, a Chelsea cast-off (Mason Mount) and two loanees (Sergio Reguilon and Amrabat) usdt
Sofyan Amrabat arrived at Old Trafford on loan this summer (Getty Images)Those at City would nevertheless laugh at such arguments given United’s expenditure over the years usdt
Ten Hag is currently in the process of ousting an £85m signing in Jadon Sancho usdt
City would say their purchases have just been much more forensic usdt
That isn’t the only potential difference usdt between the situations usdt
Although both Guardiola and Ten Hag have evolved from the same Dutch-Spanish ideology, those national backgrounds have produced divergences in interpretation usdt
It comes down to different types of purism usdt
Guardiola will stick to the system regardless usdt
It's his way usdt
He will always try and play through it usdt
Ironically, and almost paradoxically, Ten Hag’s willingness to compromise arguably reflects a greater dogmatism usdt
Those who know the Dutch coach say he has such a fixed idea of certain positions that if he doesn’t have exactly the type of player he wants, he doesn’t see the point of persevering in the same approach usdt
That’s also why the injuries have been so undermining usdt
Ten Hag has lacked some of his main passers, but especially Lisandro Martinez usdt
The Argentine’s absence has had the effect of forcing Andre Onana to go long and removing that link to the midfield usdt
It disrupts the whole system usdt
Maguire and McTominay just aren’t suited to that game, but it is to their credit both have persevered and sought to learn in the circumstances usdt
They illustrate this period of adaptation more than anyone, especially given how influential they have been usdt
There’s almost a contrast in the Scottish midfielder’s game usdt
An instinct for prosaically passing the ball sideways is offset by a willingness to proactively get forward and score usdt
Maguire meanwhile made a calculation of his own usdt
Sources with knowledge of his situation said one reason he turned down West Ham United was because he saw the issues United were going to have at centre-half usdt
Martinez’s injury and Raphael Varane’s inability to play consistently meant there were going to be chances usdt
Maguire has seized them and then some usdt
Ten Hag praised his evolution on Tuesday night, as the centre-half furthered his recent redemption with a greatly valued match-winner against Copenhagen usdt
“He’s playing much more proactive in possession, stepping in, passing vertical, defending also on the front foot, also stepping in, defending forward, very confident in the duels,” the manager argued usdt
“I think he’s dominating in the right moment, putting the question, dominating his opponents usdt
”Ten Hag is having to compromise on his ideals this season (Getty Images)United just aren’t doing that on a collective level usdt
All of this is why Ten Hag was so insistent on Frenkie De Jong in his first summer at Old Trafford usdt
He saw his former Ajax midfielder as unique in his interpretation of that specific midfield role the coach wants usdt
The only player Ten Hag saw as coming close, in terms of potential attributes, was Ryan Gravenberch usdt
That’s the reason he went so big on De Jong, against all evidence usdt
When he couldn’t get De Jong, Ten Hag realised he had to go in a different direction usdt
So it’s been a bit of all or nothing usdt
The same applies to the team as a whole usdt
Either Ten Hag has exactly what he wants, or he just can’t commit to that approach usdt
It’s why there isn’t too much concern about the visible lack of ideology now usdt
There is confidence that will return when sufficient players return, especially Martinez usdt
A fair question is whether crucial time has been lost in deepening the ideology usdt
A fair point for Sunday, meanwhile, is that this actually might serve United against City usdt
Unless Ten Hag has the team exactly as he wants, it is always going to be a mistake trying to go toe to toe with Guardiola in terms of getting feet on the ball usdt
The Catalan’s City are always going to be so dominant you have to adapt around them usdt
Otherwise, you risk an evisceration usdt
The current situation plays into that usdt
United have almost no choice but to plan without possession on Sunday usdt
The very decision to appoint Ten Hag was supposed to be about something grander, though usdt
They were supposed to be rising to City's level usdt
United instead have to try and bring the champions down, by leaving them the ball usdt
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